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		<title>By: Reality V.S. Delusion</title>
		<link>http://blog.mormonsexposed.com/?p=59&#038;cpage=1#comment-230</link>
		<dc:creator>Reality V.S. Delusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 20:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To All of those poor Mormon Fearing, spineless, religious, fanatics, without a mind of their own who can not stand on their own two feet, that need to get their weekly sacramental fix that they think will help them stay closer to Christ while giving themselves a false sense of feeling better because of some bread and water that is "supposedly blessed" by imperfect people who call themselves priesthood holders. 

Chad has the right idea about standing on your own two feet, but of course with still prayer, self and spiritual awareness in his life. Yes people, it is possible to be spiritual and not go to church. You're only as good of a spiritual person, as long as you practice being one, which does not require taking communion or conversing with other people. I'm just another living proof and testament of that. 

Everyone is individual and should be able to freely express themselves, without some ignorant, intolerant idiots from a church empire trying to place fear and confusion into your minds by attempting to control what you say and do. I have sat in many bishops offices, and I gotta tell you, every single one of them were the ones with the twisted and warped minds, because of how they would try and twist truths and facts about those sitting in front of them, just so they can attempt to place power, fear and dominance over each of the members. They call it, controlling the masses, "herding the sheep". Most psychologists would call it a definite mind controlling behavior. 

I know Chad is on the right path, by being his own individual person, but he should consider expressing it in a way that wouldn't risk the expense of other peoples demeanor. I don't think that was his intention to begin with either. Chad isn't the bad guy here. It's those who have been mind manipulated, controlled and taught that there is only one way to live a good, honest, happy, healthy life, who are intolerant of other peoples views, which are the actual bad and very judgmental people out there. 

So do not judge, because you never know what a person is really going through, Let God make the decision who is good, not good and who needs a little assistance for their shortcomings in life. I rest my case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To All of those poor Mormon Fearing, spineless, religious, fanatics, without a mind of their own who can not stand on their own two feet, that need to get their weekly sacramental fix that they think will help them stay closer to Christ while giving themselves a false sense of feeling better because of some bread and water that is &#8220;supposedly blessed&#8221; by imperfect people who call themselves priesthood holders. </p>
<p>Chad has the right idea about standing on your own two feet, but of course with still prayer, self and spiritual awareness in his life. Yes people, it is possible to be spiritual and not go to church. You&#8217;re only as good of a spiritual person, as long as you practice being one, which does not require taking communion or conversing with other people. I&#8217;m just another living proof and testament of that. </p>
<p>Everyone is individual and should be able to freely express themselves, without some ignorant, intolerant idiots from a church empire trying to place fear and confusion into your minds by attempting to control what you say and do. I have sat in many bishops offices, and I gotta tell you, every single one of them were the ones with the twisted and warped minds, because of how they would try and twist truths and facts about those sitting in front of them, just so they can attempt to place power, fear and dominance over each of the members. They call it, controlling the masses, &#8220;herding the sheep&#8221;. Most psychologists would call it a definite mind controlling behavior. </p>
<p>I know Chad is on the right path, by being his own individual person, but he should consider expressing it in a way that wouldn&#8217;t risk the expense of other peoples demeanor. I don&#8217;t think that was his intention to begin with either. Chad isn&#8217;t the bad guy here. It&#8217;s those who have been mind manipulated, controlled and taught that there is only one way to live a good, honest, happy, healthy life, who are intolerant of other peoples views, which are the actual bad and very judgmental people out there. </p>
<p>So do not judge, because you never know what a person is really going through, Let God make the decision who is good, not good and who needs a little assistance for their shortcomings in life. I rest my case.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://blog.mormonsexposed.com/?p=59&#038;cpage=1#comment-228</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 05:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't quite understand how so many can lack what most normal persons refer to as "a sense of humor." I've found in my years after leaving (quite happily!) the Mormon faith that sometimes a little "light mindedness" makes life grand, kind of like the cherry on top of a tasty coconut cake... 

Looking at reality, the overt political agenda of Mormon leaders, and their concern with money merits some "speaking ill of the Lord's anointed." A contemporary example of the former is their intervention into California's Proposition 8, in which they urged church members to donate time and money to support the imposition of their theological constructs on the state of California. With regards to the latter, another contemporary example is the $3 billion commercial mall currently under construction in Salt Lake City contrasted to the reality that they could have used that money to feed the hungered, give drink to the thirsty, shelter the stranger, clothe the naked, aid the sick, and give aid to the oppressed and imprisoned (Matt. 25:31-46). There is no possible Christian explanation for building a mall instead of helping God's suffering children. Alas "For the love of money is the root of all evil (1 Tim. 6:10)." If you take that literally, it means ALL evil. Not some, all. I, however, having the luxury of thinking for myself, don't take it literally but think that it makes a pretty good point. 

Creating a system whereby thinking, compassionate persons cannot speak to power but instead have to lower their heads (and their values) and be told what to think and do from polyester suited men in an office building is one which suppresses individual freedom and creates a sanitized monoculture in which those who think for themselves and strive to have Jesus' compassion cannot speak or act freely (should they choose to remain within the system). Ultimately, the system will purge itself of those who choose compassion and freethinking and keep only those willing to destroy their free-will in pursuit of promises made by slick men in polyester suits at the low, low price of 10% of your income. Though I keep forgetting, is that gross or net? Or is that one of those "let the Spirit guide you" type issues?

In the end, I'm glad for the lessons of love, compassion, and hard work that came from my upbringing as a 5th generation Mormon (an ancestor of mine helped Brigham Young build the SLC temple). However, it was my compassion for others, along with analyzing and thinking about the founding and current practices of the Mormon faith, that led me out of it. 

I'm glad to see that you stuck to your guns and did what your thoughts and values led you to do. It's not often that I get to encounter someone who is willing to show some integrity and independence. Best wishes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t quite understand how so many can lack what most normal persons refer to as &#8220;a sense of humor.&#8221; I&#8217;ve found in my years after leaving (quite happily!) the Mormon faith that sometimes a little &#8220;light mindedness&#8221; makes life grand, kind of like the cherry on top of a tasty coconut cake&#8230; </p>
<p>Looking at reality, the overt political agenda of Mormon leaders, and their concern with money merits some &#8220;speaking ill of the Lord&#8217;s anointed.&#8221; A contemporary example of the former is their intervention into California&#8217;s Proposition 8, in which they urged church members to donate time and money to support the imposition of their theological constructs on the state of California. With regards to the latter, another contemporary example is the $3 billion commercial mall currently under construction in Salt Lake City contrasted to the reality that they could have used that money to feed the hungered, give drink to the thirsty, shelter the stranger, clothe the naked, aid the sick, and give aid to the oppressed and imprisoned (Matt. 25:31-46). There is no possible Christian explanation for building a mall instead of helping God&#8217;s suffering children. Alas &#8220;For the love of money is the root of all evil (1 Tim. 6:10).&#8221; If you take that literally, it means ALL evil. Not some, all. I, however, having the luxury of thinking for myself, don&#8217;t take it literally but think that it makes a pretty good point. </p>
<p>Creating a system whereby thinking, compassionate persons cannot speak to power but instead have to lower their heads (and their values) and be told what to think and do from polyester suited men in an office building is one which suppresses individual freedom and creates a sanitized monoculture in which those who think for themselves and strive to have Jesus&#8217; compassion cannot speak or act freely (should they choose to remain within the system). Ultimately, the system will purge itself of those who choose compassion and freethinking and keep only those willing to destroy their free-will in pursuit of promises made by slick men in polyester suits at the low, low price of 10% of your income. Though I keep forgetting, is that gross or net? Or is that one of those &#8220;let the Spirit guide you&#8221; type issues?</p>
<p>In the end, I&#8217;m glad for the lessons of love, compassion, and hard work that came from my upbringing as a 5th generation Mormon (an ancestor of mine helped Brigham Young build the SLC temple). However, it was my compassion for others, along with analyzing and thinking about the founding and current practices of the Mormon faith, that led me out of it. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad to see that you stuck to your guns and did what your thoughts and values led you to do. It&#8217;s not often that I get to encounter someone who is willing to show some integrity and independence. Best wishes!</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
		<link>http://blog.mormonsexposed.com/?p=59&#038;cpage=1#comment-218</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 14:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I meant NOT in magazines and calendars etc</description>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
		<link>http://blog.mormonsexposed.com/?p=59&#038;cpage=1#comment-217</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 14:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sexuality is part of being a Mormon or member of the Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saint.  You can go and buy any lingerie to wear.  But the sacred part of it belongs in the marriage on in a magazine, calendar etc.  These are common things we are taught.  A woman can be a Hot Muffin for her husband and vice versa. I cannot understand how a member of the church cannot see how this affects others.  We are all free to choose.  That  is predicated that we will chose the right.  Commonly taught and all know it.

Individuals have their freedom but when they join the church they KNOW they are joining a higher, non temporal realm.  Mormons are not held back.  I strip and dance for my husband but I  respect him and our marriage to keep it there.

When you chose to step out into the road without being cautious and you get hit by the car... you can't blame the car.  You are free to chose but you cannot change the consequences of your choices.  I bet these people even teach that to their children.

And all the slanderous remarks from non mormons and mormons on here show lack of kindness and love of God.  Really, speak truth but be nasty?  That isn't what we are all about.  I love these brothers and sisters but even they kno9w what and why it is wrong.  Rationalizing is the first step and sign that you are headed down the wrong road.  God Bless you all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sexuality is part of being a Mormon or member of the Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saint.  You can go and buy any lingerie to wear.  But the sacred part of it belongs in the marriage on in a magazine, calendar etc.  These are common things we are taught.  A woman can be a Hot Muffin for her husband and vice versa. I cannot understand how a member of the church cannot see how this affects others.  We are all free to choose.  That  is predicated that we will chose the right.  Commonly taught and all know it.</p>
<p>Individuals have their freedom but when they join the church they KNOW they are joining a higher, non temporal realm.  Mormons are not held back.  I strip and dance for my husband but I  respect him and our marriage to keep it there.</p>
<p>When you chose to step out into the road without being cautious and you get hit by the car&#8230; you can&#8217;t blame the car.  You are free to chose but you cannot change the consequences of your choices.  I bet these people even teach that to their children.</p>
<p>And all the slanderous remarks from non mormons and mormons on here show lack of kindness and love of God.  Really, speak truth but be nasty?  That isn&#8217;t what we are all about.  I love these brothers and sisters but even they kno9w what and why it is wrong.  Rationalizing is the first step and sign that you are headed down the wrong road.  God Bless you all.</p>
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		<title>By: Hunter</title>
		<link>http://blog.mormonsexposed.com/?p=59&#038;cpage=1#comment-216</link>
		<dc:creator>Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 03:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it goes without saying that these two projects were meant to rock a few boats, ruffle some feathers, etc. There is no possibility that you, the creator, were ignorant of the Church's inevitable negative response. The Church has a long history of punishing intellectuals that question or break their esoteric and draconian moral guidelines and "doctrine."

The sad truth about the LDS Church, and generally other large organized churches/sects/religions as well, is that individuality is systematically stifled and snuffed out. How many well-known artists and intellectuals, who by their very nature question and speak out, are active members of the Church? Not too many bells are ringing.

My suggestion would be to continue on with your work regardless of your membership status. As for the loss of your hard work at BYU, my condolences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it goes without saying that these two projects were meant to rock a few boats, ruffle some feathers, etc. There is no possibility that you, the creator, were ignorant of the Church&#8217;s inevitable negative response. The Church has a long history of punishing intellectuals that question or break their esoteric and draconian moral guidelines and &#8220;doctrine.&#8221;</p>
<p>The sad truth about the LDS Church, and generally other large organized churches/sects/religions as well, is that individuality is systematically stifled and snuffed out. How many well-known artists and intellectuals, who by their very nature question and speak out, are active members of the Church? Not too many bells are ringing.</p>
<p>My suggestion would be to continue on with your work regardless of your membership status. As for the loss of your hard work at BYU, my condolences.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
		<link>http://blog.mormonsexposed.com/?p=59&#038;cpage=1#comment-214</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 08:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not agree with how your products portray mormons. I think it is very wrong and offensive and I wonder how those featured can justifiy themselves for participating because bringing attention to the sexuality of missionaries and mothers (whom are given some of the most important and sacred roles on earth) is very wrong. However, the mormons who have sent you hate mail are not being latter-day saints. There is something to be said for "the church is true, the people aren't." 
Also, I wanted to add that most mormons are not judgemental like that. It seems to be a popular trend for "utah mormons" though, which makes me sad because when I lived out of state, I met some of the most incredible people in the world. It also so seems to be the trend that the most outspoken (the ones sending you hate mail) are those that are wrong. 
I am embarrassed for my fellow mormons because of those who have sent you those emails.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not agree with how your products portray mormons. I think it is very wrong and offensive and I wonder how those featured can justifiy themselves for participating because bringing attention to the sexuality of missionaries and mothers (whom are given some of the most important and sacred roles on earth) is very wrong. However, the mormons who have sent you hate mail are not being latter-day saints. There is something to be said for &#8220;the church is true, the people aren&#8217;t.&#8221;<br />
Also, I wanted to add that most mormons are not judgemental like that. It seems to be a popular trend for &#8220;utah mormons&#8221; though, which makes me sad because when I lived out of state, I met some of the most incredible people in the world. It also so seems to be the trend that the most outspoken (the ones sending you hate mail) are those that are wrong.<br />
I am embarrassed for my fellow mormons because of those who have sent you those emails.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
		<link>http://blog.mormonsexposed.com/?p=59&#038;cpage=1#comment-204</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 04:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sad...but not surprising.  It seems the most "righteous" (more like self-righteous...) are also the most judgemental.  I honestly think you're better off excommunicated.  Go find a more open-minded congregation, someplace where they'll truly accept you with no strings attached.

Keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sad&#8230;but not surprising.  It seems the most &#8220;righteous&#8221; (more like self-righteous&#8230;) are also the most judgemental.  I honestly think you&#8217;re better off excommunicated.  Go find a more open-minded congregation, someplace where they&#8217;ll truly accept you with no strings attached.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: ModerationAboveAll</title>
		<link>http://blog.mormonsexposed.com/?p=59&#038;cpage=1#comment-203</link>
		<dc:creator>ModerationAboveAll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 07:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the people that pointed fingers at you foolishly thinking they were better than you, are just a bunch out of the millions of members of the church. Just like the people that support you and are willing to pose semi-nude are. Small groups. We can't generalize and say that everyone in the church is evil because of what these people said to you neither can we say that because you have a small group of supporters the church is wrong, narrow minded, intolerant and what have you.

Neither extreme is right.  I think that having a regular life, believing in whatever it is you want to believe in, respecting others, their lifestyles and personal beliefs makes a HUGE impression in the world without controversy and without falling out of grace. At least that's my choice and how I've experienced things. I was born and raised in the church in a country where the Gospel is relatively new (has less than a century there), I'm a mom and a wife, I have gay friends, friends with AIDS, bisexual friends, convert friends, friends whom I grew up with who are now less active, friends who don't believe in God anymore, friends whose parents have been excommunicated. I think that being tolerant and loving while being strong in my own convictions will ultimately leave a great imprint in their lives. I hear it from them often. They admire my firmness and my respect for their ways of life. What else do I want? I think that wanting more than that is vanity. I'm not calling you vain. I'm saying what wanting more would mean to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the people that pointed fingers at you foolishly thinking they were better than you, are just a bunch out of the millions of members of the church. Just like the people that support you and are willing to pose semi-nude are. Small groups. We can&#8217;t generalize and say that everyone in the church is evil because of what these people said to you neither can we say that because you have a small group of supporters the church is wrong, narrow minded, intolerant and what have you.</p>
<p>Neither extreme is right.  I think that having a regular life, believing in whatever it is you want to believe in, respecting others, their lifestyles and personal beliefs makes a HUGE impression in the world without controversy and without falling out of grace. At least that&#8217;s my choice and how I&#8217;ve experienced things. I was born and raised in the church in a country where the Gospel is relatively new (has less than a century there), I&#8217;m a mom and a wife, I have gay friends, friends with AIDS, bisexual friends, convert friends, friends whom I grew up with who are now less active, friends who don&#8217;t believe in God anymore, friends whose parents have been excommunicated. I think that being tolerant and loving while being strong in my own convictions will ultimately leave a great imprint in their lives. I hear it from them often. They admire my firmness and my respect for their ways of life. What else do I want? I think that wanting more than that is vanity. I&#8217;m not calling you vain. I&#8217;m saying what wanting more would mean to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Jov.</title>
		<link>http://blog.mormonsexposed.com/?p=59&#038;cpage=1#comment-198</link>
		<dc:creator>Jov.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 07:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the humor is nice but be careful  what you show. It seems to me a bit twisted or ironic.. to have a web-site with images that encourage perverted thinking and such, while in the same time the creaters runs it for the better good. I suppose you should be more responsible of what you show and improve it were it sends your message more efficiently. You could put in some animation, I dont know just be more creative in a smarter setting were the response inst so judgemen.God be with you. love* jov.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the humor is nice but be careful  what you show. It seems to me a bit twisted or ironic.. to have a web-site with images that encourage perverted thinking and such, while in the same time the creaters runs it for the better good. I suppose you should be more responsible of what you show and improve it were it sends your message more efficiently. You could put in some animation, I dont know just be more creative in a smarter setting were the response inst so judgemen.God be with you. love* jov.</p>
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		<title>By: A-dad</title>
		<link>http://blog.mormonsexposed.com/?p=59&#038;cpage=1#comment-190</link>
		<dc:creator>A-dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 06:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chad, 

Your situation is sad but common. Many people who speak out in any form are presented as evil. Sadly it has been happening since the early days of the Prophet Joseph.

This is how the church protects itself. You are demonized for making a calendar that irritated the wrong people (although enough of them have taken a good look at it). Did all of the women get exed who posed? How about the missionaries? (I am sure that would be some great media coverage)

The Mormon church spends millions each year to cover up gross misconduct and mistakes by bishops, scout leaders and missionaries. Hopefully one day the church leaders will have the courage and integrity shown by other churches; stop professing perfection as a church, admit their leaders make mistakes and address the issues to their members. 

Hang in there.

A-dad</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chad, </p>
<p>Your situation is sad but common. Many people who speak out in any form are presented as evil. Sadly it has been happening since the early days of the Prophet Joseph.</p>
<p>This is how the church protects itself. You are demonized for making a calendar that irritated the wrong people (although enough of them have taken a good look at it). Did all of the women get exed who posed? How about the missionaries? (I am sure that would be some great media coverage)</p>
<p>The Mormon church spends millions each year to cover up gross misconduct and mistakes by bishops, scout leaders and missionaries. Hopefully one day the church leaders will have the courage and integrity shown by other churches; stop professing perfection as a church, admit their leaders make mistakes and address the issues to their members. </p>
<p>Hang in there.</p>
<p>A-dad</p>
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